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Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames)

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Semper Victor
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Kim Kanger
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26Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Mer 7 Déc 2011 - 21:39

Semper Victor

Semper Victor

Very nice, as usual cheers

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27Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Ven 23 Déc 2011 - 19:26

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

Joyeux Noël Smile

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28Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Mar 17 Jan 2012 - 13:39

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

Examples of counter (backside and frontside)
Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Back_front_2REI

Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Back_front_1BEP
Only backside
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29Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Lun 16 Avr 2012 - 16:23

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

I wish to make DBP a fast playing tournament game. I will introduce a make or break system. The Viet Minh places a regiment order marker on a French strongpoint. That regiment is now ordered to continue its assault until that strongpoint is reached and conquered. While reaching it, the regiment will suffer two consequences of its assault as well as battle results (in addition to losses). The consequences are fatigue and distress. The assault will continue with movement and fighting until the order marker is reached or the units reatreat - make or break.

After each movement and assault a unit gets increasingly tired until it gets exhausted (two sides of a marker). The more tired it gets the lower its effectiveness is. After each fighting, results of distress may accumulate. First is gets disrupted and then eventually shaken (again, two sides of a marker). So a unit that starts fresh will eventually end up both exhausted and shaken, but still able to fight though.

Along the way it might also get a battle result as surpressed, which will stop an assault. A regiment can continue until the steam blows off and hopefully it will have reached its objective before its battalions receive retreat results, perhaps due to their increasingly poor status.

The trick is to know how far in among the French the Viet Minh should place the order markers. To far in the units might not be able to reach it and take unnecessary losses in the process of their struggle to get there. Also, failure is not good for morale. Not far in enough, the gains might not be that impressive and, who knows, maybe you could have taken that extra strongpoint also. And, of course, success is good for morale.

30Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Lun 16 Avr 2012 - 20:38

Semper Victor

Semper Victor

Une idée quant à la date de parution ?

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31Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Lun 16 Avr 2012 - 21:46

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

Realistically, next year.

32Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Lun 16 Avr 2012 - 21:56

Semper Victor

Semper Victor

C'est raisonnable.

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33Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Sam 21 Avr 2012 - 14:22

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

Work is proceeding. This game will not be burdened by a lot of complex rules. This will be a tournament game and have one single rule: Assault!

Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Map

34Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Dim 20 Mai 2012 - 1:19

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Logo

Design is proceeding. It's going to be a great game.

http://www.kangerproject.com/DienBienPhu/

35Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Dim 20 Mai 2012 - 13:44

Semper Victor

Semper Victor

Au travail, plus vite, plus vite Wink

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36Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Dim 3 Juin 2012 - 1:59

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

Map is updated. Click on the link above.

37Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Lun 11 Juin 2012 - 15:03

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

As you can see, the picture is stylized into fewer and clearer colour fields at 600 dpi. This should work well when printed. I also wanted to make the icon almost physical with its big and dramatic picture. Perfect for companies clinging onto a hill at DBP.

Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 6%20bpc_2

38Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Lun 11 Juin 2012 - 21:48

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

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39Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Mar 12 Juin 2012 - 8:29

Semper Victor

Semper Victor

Les choses semblent bien avancer, non ?

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40Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Mar 12 Juin 2012 - 13:46

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

You mean they are too complex? Perhaps. I have adjusted them a bit now.
Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 6%20bpc_small

41Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Lun 13 Aoû 2012 - 23:33

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

I have a marker in Dien Bien Phu showing on a track how much food the French have left. Will this do?

Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Food

GGrin

42Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Mer 22 Aoû 2012 - 23:39

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

DBP graphics (map & counters) can be seen, as they are now:

http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX?8@@.1dd51d86

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43Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Jeu 23 Aoû 2012 - 11:51

Semper Victor

Semper Victor

This last counter is a bit "cliché" isn't it ? A funny one indeed Wink
You should maybe also add a "handball" counter as a symbol ? tongue

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44Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Jeu 23 Aoû 2012 - 12:30

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

I will probably in the end change the snail into a baguette to make it more conventional (or should I have a frog instead tongue ).

But then, of course, there must "the alternative commander", as always Smile

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45Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Jeu 23 Aoû 2012 - 12:33

Semper Victor

Semper Victor

Très bon ! jocolor

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46Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Mar 28 Aoû 2012 - 14:37

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

I'm looking at the order of battle in Dien Bien Phu on the 13 March. Could this be right?

Bétrice: 3/13 DBLE bn
Gabrielle: 5/7 RTA bn, thai co, 2 CMMLE ptn
Anne-Marie 1: 3 BT co
Anne-Marie 2: 3 BT co
Huguette 6: 3 BT co
Huguette 7: 3 BT co
Francoise: thai co
Huguette 1: 1/2 REI co
Huguette 2: 1/2 REI co
Huguette 3: thai co
Huguette 4: 1/2 REI co
Huguette 5: 1/2 REI co
Hguette 1-5: thai co (in any of the five Huguettes)
Dominique 1: 3/3 RTA co
Dominique 2: 3/3 RTA co, 2x 1 CEPML ptn
Dominique 3: 3/3 RTA co, 2/4 RAC bty, 31 BG co
Dominique 4: 3/3 RTA co, 2x 2/4 RAC bty
Dominique 5: 2 BT co
Dominique 6: - (was not constructed yet)
Eliane 1: 1/4 RTM co
Eliane 2: 1/4 RTM co
Eliane 3: 1/4 RTM co, 31 BG co
Eliane 4: 1/4 RTM co
Eliane 10: 4/4 RAC bty
Eliane 11 -
Eliane 12: 2x 2 BT co
Epervier: 2 BT co, 2x GAACEO (Epervier was not really constructed yet, so technically these units were at D4)
Airfield: 2x 8 BPC co, 2x 1 CMMLE ptn (At the southern tip of the airfield)
Claudine 1: 1 CEPML ptn, 2 CMMLE ptn, thai co
Claudine 2: 1/13 DBLE co
Claudine 3: 1/13 DBLE co
Claudine 4: 1/13 DBLE co
Claudine 5: 1/13 DBLE co
Claudine 1-5: thai co (in any of the five Claudines
HQ area: 2x 8 BPC co, 3/10 RAC bty, 7x M24, 3x 1 BEP co
Junon: 1 BEP co
Isabelle (Wieme): 3x thai co
Isabelle: 2/1 RTA bn, 3/3 REI bn, 2x 3/10 RAC bty, 3x M24 (But in which strongpoints were they?)

47Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Mar 28 Aoû 2012 - 18:17

Semper Victor

Semper Victor

I'am not a specilist enough to state if that's perfectly right Embarassed



Dernière édition par Semper Victor le Mar 28 Aoû 2012 - 19:37, édité 1 fois

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48Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Mar 28 Aoû 2012 - 19:22

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

And you call yourself French Shocked

Wink Smoker

49Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Mar 28 Aoû 2012 - 19:37

Semper Victor

Semper Victor

I'am not French, I'am Roman Wink

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50Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) - Page 2 Empty Re: Dien Bien Phu (Legion Wargames) Mar 28 Aoû 2012 - 19:48

Kim Kanger

Kim Kanger

And I'm Viking, therefore Norman, therefore British, therefore European, therefore a modern Roman...too Santé

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